June 1, 2026
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#1374 Introducing the Nuance: Chrystia Freeland on Trump and Putin
“There were people who came in here to tell me I'm a dog. But there are lots of other people who are here having a conversation and lots of other people who made it possible for us to continue to have the conversation.” -Chrystia Freeland
Stephen Marche
Guest Host
Bruce Thorson
Senior Producer
Tristan Capacchione
Producer
max collins
Director of Audio

Trump and Putin both hate Chrystia Freeland. But her ability to unite world leaders under a single banner isn’t her greatest accolade.  Freeland is quite simply one of the most acrcomplished public servants in Canada’s history. For starters, she was the first woman to serve as finance minister. She helped introduce $10 a day daycare in this country. She was also instrumental in the fall of the Trudeau government, and currently she runs the Rhodes Scholarship and works as an economic advisor for Ukraine. 

But more than any of that, Freeland has been one of the closest observers of globalization over the past 30 years. She saw its birth as a journalist in Russia in the 1990s, and she saw its death while working as deputy prime minister for Canada in the 2020s. Chrystia Freeland joins us today to talk about that front row seat at the rise and seeming demise of globalization. 

This conversation is the launch of our upcoming speakers series The Nuance. It’s a simple idea: important conversations on complex subjects with informed guests in front of a live audience.

 

Host: Stephen Marche

Credits: Tristan Capacchione (Audio Editor & Technical Producer), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor and Publisher)

Fact checking by Julian Abraham

Photo: U.S. Embassy and Consulates in Canada

 

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